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Soccer Report Extra Podcast: Episode 59 – Hughie Green? What An Obscure Reference

Written by on February 7, 2012 | 15 Comments »
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One minute they’re reviewing the controversial Danny Welbeck pk decision, and the next they’re reminiscing about 1950’s UK variety show host Hughie Green (and his Ancelotti-esque raised eyebrow).  It’s not all fun and games though, as Bobby & Eoin get into a heated exchange over the English FA’s handling of the John Terry situation.  The guys also review Manchester United’s amazing 3-3 comeback draw with Chelsea, Roma’s 4-nil demolition of Inter Milan, and Zlatan Ibrahimovic’s simultaneously ingenious & stupid sending off versus Napoli.

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15 responses to “Soccer Report Extra Podcast: Episode 59 – Hughie Green? What An Obscure Reference”

  1. Roberto Senyera says:

    Howard Webb had an absolute ‘mare & completely bottled it. ManU’s MOTM. Has Webb become the most over-rated referee in Europe?

    I may be in the minority here but I tend to side with Eoin’s argument over Bobby’s concerning the latest John Terry saga. I expect a populist outcry led by special interest groups & a media feeding frenzy to pressurize the FA into dropping him altogether from the Euro 2012 squad as the next plot twist in this sorry soap opera. If there’s one thing you can count on before a major tournament it’s that the English media will do their upmost to thwart their team’s chances of success. Winners: political correctness and the tabloids. Losers: freedom of speech and the principle of innocent until proven guilty.

    Stay tuned. This has a long way to go yet folks.

  2. Your principle of innocence until proven guilty is a red herring. If you follow to a logical conclusion then someone charged with possessing child porn that works in a day care should be able to continue to operate in that environment until trial.
    That is preposterous.

  3. Roberto Senyera says:

    Your example isn’t quite an apples to apples comparison. It’s more like comparing apples to oranges. Anyhow, as you know, in most employment situations in the real world the person being charged would likely be suspended with pay until the trial concludes. Then either be dismissed or reinstated depending on the outcome of the trial. Even in your hypothetical example this would be a just course of action. A charge is just a charge until the accused has their day in court.

    Agree to disagree.

  4. rdm says:

    Roberto, how does that differ from what Bobby is suggesting? It being reasonable to suspend someone with pay until the trial concludes is (as far as my understanding goes) precisely why he thinks the FA’s decision is a reasonable one.

  5. Sandra says:

    I’ve yet to see or hear a pundit talk about Gabrielle Marcotti’s translation of Capello’s actual comments. Marcotti actually knows Italian and he tweeted corrections to the English media’s slant on Capello’s comments. Marcotti’s corrections made his comments far less incendiary than they’ve been made out to be.

  6. J Rob says:

    My guess is that the FA acted unilaterally with no discussion with Capello prior to the discussion.

    As for John Terry. Before I make the next statement I’ll preface it by saying that I see nothing to make me disagree with the general consensus that he is a loathsome individual.

    That said, nothing has been proven about him making a racist comment to Anton Ferdinand. I can only imagine some of the other horrible comments that are made between players on the pitch that have nothing to do with race. The existence of one doesn’t make the other excusable but does provide context.

    The football world seems intent on making examples of those who transgress on the pitch in the middle of a fiercely-contested game.

    Where is the outcry about the the lack of coaches/managers, FA officials or indeed football commentators, journalists or pundits who are persons of colour?

    The widespread coverage of the Terry/Ferdinand case and Evra/Suarez affair has prompted almost no discussion of that bigger question.

    If you want to see proof of racism in the EPL in the game I wouldn’t look on the pitch which is full of players of every colour, race and creed. I wouldn’t look even at the stands which apart from a very small minority are full of fans who have evolved by many degrees from fans a generation ago. I’d look at the coaching bench, the director’s box, the commentary box and the press box.

  7. Roberto Senyera says:

    Well said J Rob.

    And well done Mr. Capello for stepping down. Hat’s off to you sir. Who wants to work for such an incompetent organization as the English FA that undermines your authority on what is without question a coaching/managerial decision (Wenger’s in agreement on that matter). The English FA has consistently proven they are run by a bunch of incompetent Keystone Kops. Keep up the good work there, continue letting the media dictate policy/influence both team selection & captain selection/impose morality, and best of luck in the Euros btw 😉

  8. Roberto Senyera says:

    And Sandra I agree with your post whole heartedly. I heard Marcotti on another podcast saying the exact same thing. You should know by now that the English footy media has a long history of misleading the public to suit their own agenda/devices. Absolutely unprofessional and reprehensible behaviour by many in that profession IMHO.

  9. J Rob says:

    Great podcast. Finally listened at lunch. Googled the private life of Hughie Green. Sick puppy indeed.

  10. J Rob says:

    Without trying to be too cynical, I wonder if the FA interviews for the English manager’s position will include a question along these lines

    “If a player is involved in a serious controversy (possibly including legal issues) which might negatively affect his or other players ability to play to their full capability what would your position be on including them in an England squad for a major tournament”?

    Something tells me as this plays out that Terry will NOT be going to the Euro’s.

  11. Roberto Senyera says:

    When political correctness trumps legal tenets such as innocent until proven guilty society as a whole is the loser. Modern day lynch mob. Sad day indeed.

  12. J Rob says:

    It’s a tricky one. Understand the legal process that everyone should get YET something tells me everyone would be better off if Terry didn’t go the Euro’s.

  13. Roberto Senyera says:

    … for strictly footballing reasons I could see that viewpoint as he was dreadful in the 2010 WC, lacks pace, and is past it in my opinion. However, Capello wanted him as the captain, therefore, a guarantied starting spot.

    I’m defending Terry although I think he is a massive tw*t and can’t stand Chelsea. It’s all about principle here and what is right (which isn’t always what’s PC).

    As Flippy Lip tweeted recently, I have a bad taste in my mouth.

  14. Ed Gomes says:

    In the world of sports and entertainment standard rules don’t apply. Wrong or right, players/managers/presidents get away with things that could throw a regular person in jail.
    But that also means that in the court of public opinion you have to bow to interest groups. Frankly No matter how selfish a player/person Terry might be, he himself should ave stepped down. Basically putting the interest of the team ahead of himself. That would show true leadership. Doing that is not an admission of guilt.

    Having said that, all FA’s are incredibly badly run. They have a ton of money and influence yet get wrong most of the time. They are either reactionaire in some situations or sit and drag on others. Public, club interests and money drive most situations.
    As per example the Portuguese FA has a big I put in who gets called up. I may be a Benfiquista, but Martins and Amorin had no business being on the squad due to the limited playing time. Yet, there they were, Martins even started, and that was mostly due to Club pressure.

    Lastly, Capello leaving has been a long time coming. I truly feel he was looking for an out and no matter how ill advised he chose this one.

  15. Carlos Gallon says:

    The worst thing that could be done by the FA or Capello is nothing. Capello did nothing and perhaps he was waiting for the court’s decision but, it was clear that the matter couldn’t stay as it was and so the FA stepped in. What his decision shows us about his character considering what he did with the Wayne Bridge incident is not merely personal. It all reflects on the sport.

    Being a Chelsea fan I must admit that this team is the biggest group of undisciplined and disrespectful player in the EPL . They’ve conflicted with every coach they’ve had after Mourinho. As for Terry, as Roberto mentioned, he is a loathsome individual and fans should consider what message supporting someone like that is giving people

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