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Soccer Report Extra Podcast: Episode 5 – Now On iTunes!

Written by on March 11, 2011 | 13 Comments »
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On this week’s podcast Eoin and Bobby look back at the four games in the Champions League. Was there any good news in Arsenal’s loss to Barcelona? Is Milan on the way up or heading in the opposite direction? Which Champions League Coach gives his team-talks in Portuguese but isn’t Portuguese and neither is his team?  Should Manchester United try to scuttle the possible move of Manuel Neuer from Schalke 04 to Bayern Munich?

The focus is then turned to the last eight of the FA Cup and we debate whether or not the tournament can be returned to its past splendour. Would a Champions League spot to the winner help breathe fresh life into the tournament?  And why one of the arguments against such a move is a red herring.

What are your thoughts? Should we just allow the FA Cup to die a slow death and if not how would you go about reviving it to the past glories? Have your say.

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13 responses to “Soccer Report Extra Podcast: Episode 5 – Now On iTunes!”

  1. Scott Murray’s 5-point plan to save the FA Cup from the Guardian today

    http://tiny.cc/ac00f

  2. Gus Keri says:

    What happened Bobby?

    I don’t see the “play” bar

  3. We are experiencing technical difficulties – normal service will be resumed as soon as possible.

  4. Gus Keri says:

    Bobby:

    While waiting for the technical problem to be fixed, here is my opinion.

    I don’t think UEFA will consider FA cup winner for the UCL. If they agree to that, they have to consider the cup winners from other top nations like Sapin, Italy, Germany and France and maybe others too.

    It’s better to take the winner of the Europa league to the following year UCL.
    This way, the winner of the FA cup has to go through additional competition to prove that it belongs in the UCL.

    The other way to make the FA cup more meaningful and make teams take it more seriously, is by making the money rewards significant.

  5. My understanding is that UEFA allows the respective FAs to set their own criteria for qualifying. I can see how the winner of the EL qualifying for the CL would help the EL but I can’t see how it would help the FA Cup. It is to many steps removed so it loses all impact.

    To make the money comparable you are looking in the range of $50M to the winner of the FA Cup and the pockets are not that deep.

    “This way, the winner of the FA cup has to go through additional competition to prove that it belongs in the UCL.” – can you tell me which winners of the FA Cup in the last 15 years would be regarded as teams that do not belong in the CL?

    It seems to me the issue is getting teams to play their strongest teams in the FA Cup and that in its self is going to mean that one of the four or five strongest teams will win it. What is doesn’t guarantee is that some of the four or five strongest sides will not hit some banana skins along the way. That is what use to make the FA Cup magical. Not the eventual winners but that in any given round some of the best teams can get knocked out while fielding a full strength team.

  6. Gus Keri says:

    What I meant with “to prove that it belongs to the UCL” is that it’s not fair to take a team to the money spinning UCL after playing 6 rounds of games only when the 4th ranked team in the EPL goes through 38 rounds of gruelling games.

    By winning the EL, they played much more games and at that point, they will be rewarded with a UCL place.

    But this of course for those teams which have not qualified to the UCL through the league. It applies for a team like Portmouth 2008.

  7. Gus Keri says:

    The other issue of making team play with their strongest team is always tricky.

    With the high quality players that the top teams can field, it will increase the likelihood of massive blow out.

    So, if you are dreaming of a shock result, you might end up with a nightmare.

    The reserve team of any top English team is still much better team than some full team in the lower devision.

    The huge disparity of quality between two teams is not making games watchable. You actually might lose interest if the score reaches 3-0 or higher.

  8. Jay houdini says:

    thx for the fix. i wasnt around to follow past fa cups classics, but i think it’s allright as it is. the final will feature the strongest lineups available, while previous rounds gives us a chance to see youngsters, up and comers and gives a chance to squad players to play. Teams have a lot fixtures on their schedule and for them to attach the same importance to every fixture is impossible.

    One might just look at Aston Villa under Martin O’neill, who would always player his top 11 no matter what, and those teams would fizzle in the 2nd half of the season. Its a juggling act, but the main result is to win, and top sides still manage to win, while playing their reserves. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion. In a way, it levels the playing field. Awarding a Cl spot would just make sure that average sides play their best players, while top sides would still trot out a mixture of first 11’s and squad players

  9. Podcast working again. The play bar is showing again.

    I tune subscription working as well – sorry for the inconvenience.

  10. Soccerlogical says:

    Good job “managing” the tech difficulties, as Reuters was just about to report both you and Eoin leaving SRE in the summer!

  11. Bosman transfers?

  12. Grant says:

    Glad to see you are now on iTunes Bobby and Eoin.

    It seems to me all this about returning the FA Cup to its former glory is really just nostalgia for a time when it was one of the few games on television. The Guardian article you pointed us too made very quick work of the actual “quality” of the finals in the past. Now that people like me in Winnipeg, Canada can watch 5 live EPL games a weekend and same-day broadcasts of the rest, there is bound to be less of an event about the cup.

    Nonetheless, your point about the magic of a cup and that one-off, anything can happen on the day dream should never be allowed to fade away.

    I agree that the FA Cup winner should be given a Champions League place.

    I think they should also guarantee that the FA Cup winner can’t be relegated or, in the unlikely event that the winner is from a lower league, the winner gets promoted to the Premier League. That would encourage the lesser sides to play their best teams. The problem is not the B sides of the big teams. They have the squad strength to do that and, after all, it is almost always one of the Big Four that wins the cup these days anyway. The problem is the Villas who break their fans hearts by abstaining in the cup. Perhaps a shot at Champions League and the safety from relegation would be an inducement.

    Lastly, dump the League Cup (or make it strictly for teams not competing in Europe). Why the hell do we have that one anyway? It isn’t “tradition”. Didn’t it start around 1960? Is there any other country besides Scotland that has both an FA Cup and a League Cup?

  13. Gbenga says:

    Nice podcast and I enjoyed it… Great stuff… Arsenal is reaching a crucial stretch and they will have nobody to blame if they throw it all away.

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