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Luis Suarez’s “Barbaric Yawp”; Heard All Round The World

Written by on February 15, 2012 | 54 Comments »
Posted in Liverpool, Manchester United

How could an act that has no sound be so loud that you almost lose your hearing just listening to it? I heard of a supersonic energy that surpasses the ability of human beings to hear. I heard also of dog’s ability to hear things that humans can not. But for anyone to almost goes deaf just listening to Luis Suarez’s scream without him even moving his lips, is impossible. But that exactly what happened when he refused to shake Patrice Evra’s hand.

It was the loudest barbaric yawp I have ever heard. Suarez had put all his displeasure, frustration and anger against the whole world in it. He directed it toward each and every one who has any thing to do with his conviction of using racial word.

First and most of all, the yawp was directed against Evra who was the main culprit of the whole affair. Evra decided to take what was supposed to be a playground fight between two petulant kids to his parents, or in this case, to the FA. Whatever happened in the course of the game should have stayed in the game itself. This is the main rule of playing professional sports.

There are always insults being exchanged among players during the game and there can be no limits to what they can say to each others. But by the end of the game, they shake hands and move on. Or, this is what I thought was happening.

I didn’t know they changed the rule suddenly and didn’t tell anybody that there are limits to what you can say to each other during the game. And if they set a limit for insults, how far should they go? Is racial insult against a black North American or European player equal to a family insult against a South American, North African or Middle Eastern player?

The main question was: Did Suarez racially abuse Evra? (Remember that Suarez admitted saying the word “negro” in a conversation in Spanish language between the two players)

Evra said: Yes, he did.
Suarez said: No, I didn’t.

I am not going to argue the point of who was telling the truth and who was not, because both players have history of misbehaving, and in the case of Evra, he himself used a racial abuse against other players, as it was documented by a French TV program.

Suarez has one black grandparent and was involved on many occasions in charity works with black children in South Africa. For him to be labelled as a racist for the rest of his life is unbearable. It goes against all what he believes in. His hatred toward Evra who instigated this campaign to smear his reputation will go for ever.

Secondly, this yawp was directed against the English football Association (FA).

Racism is a huge problem in Great Britain in general and in sport in particular. As a matter of fact, this problem plagued the whole European continent. Every one is working hard trying to find a solution to it and if they can, they would like to get rid of it completely.

The FA found in Suarez’s case a chance to send a message to the world that racism is not tolerated. But the process that they conducted was not up to the standard from the legal point of view. They have reached their conclusion on basis of “high likelihood of guilt” instead of the standard “beyond any reasonable doubt”.

There was a lot of criticism of the legal proceeding that took place during the trial. Some of which came form legal experts who have no affiliation with Liverpool FC whatsoever. And the worst part is the fact that LFC and Suarez can’t appeal the verdict. If they tried to take the FA to outside court, they will lose their status in the English game.

I am not an expert and I am not condoning or condemning the process. But I believe that Suarez is entitled to a full and legitimate legal proceeding to clear his name. After all, he is a human being, and the reputation of being racist is something you don’t want to take with you after you finish playing the game.

The third party that the yawp was aimed at is Suarez’s own club.

According to reports, Suarez promised his club and his manager to shake hands with Evra. But I can imagine myself in his shoes. He probably agreed to it under the pressure of the management, against his wish. Otherwise, why would he shake the hand of the perpetrator who caused him so much anguish and pain in the last few months.

Liverpool FC mishandled this case from the beginning. That initial “playground” fracas could have been resolved in a sit down with the two clubs and the two players and could have been done with very fast, without any harm. But LFC was as culprit as Sir Alex Ferguson in trying to make a big deal out of it.

One can understand if Sir Alex Ferguson wanted to make a big issue out of it. He has never shied away from any attempt at derailing the Liverpool club, and he has been doing that for the last 25 years. He would not miss any chance to inflict damage to the LFC and especially to the one player that was a thorn in MUFC’s side; Luis Suarez.

Since the arrival of Kenny Dalglish, a renewed sense of hope prevails over the Anfield. A rebuilding process has started to bring back the glory days to the club. These are not good news to Sir Alex’s ear, of course. SAF has been around the league for a long time and he is an expert on how to handle administrative issue with the FA. The Liverpool club should recognize that they are facing a huge uphill battle whenever they are facing SAF in the board room.

Liverpool FC failed miserably in protecting their player and, even worse, they tarnished the club reputation trying to do that. Suarez, now, feels betrayed by his own club in spite of all the talk about supporting him from both the LFC administrators and fans, alike.

He feels lonely in the face of tremendous evil that controls the sport and the fate of its players. He, even, can’t rely on his closest people to make him feel safe. Now, he has to go back to his home in Uruguay to explain to his family, some of whom are black, that he is not racist.

But there is one thing Suarez can be sure of and that his barbaric yawp was heard loud and clear all round the world.

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54 Responses to “Luis Suarez’s “Barbaric Yawp”; Heard All Round The World”

  1. Eoin O'Callaghan says:

    Gus,

    This is tripe.

  2. john in burke says:

    I visit this site daily, and this is without a doubt the most ridiculous thing posted that i have read.

    Shame shame, Mr Keri

  3. John Bladen says:

    Gus, you’ve said you won’t argue who was telling the truth and who wasn’t. Fair enough, but the rest of your article implies very clearly that it is Evra who has caused Suarez difficulty.

    I disagree. The FA gains nothing by punishing Suarez (or John Terry) for racial abuse if there were any doubt about what actually occurred. In fact, they lose by doing so (the media simply won’t let it die). Perhaps Evra has “made a meal” of some of the aggro between them, but never forget it is Suarez who put himself in this position in the first place.

    Evra’s past (which is not perfect, as noted) is irrelevant to this issue. Alex Ferguson’s dislike for LFC is also irrelevant (for the record, he called Suarez’ actions disgraceful, but also admitted that Evra should not have celebrated as he did in front of Suarez. I might go so far as to call Evra’s celebration unsporting, but then, I’m not his manager).

    I know this is your club and you want to defend them… but with respect I would say you’ve fallen in the same trap Dalglish did:

    Trying to defend the indefensible.

  4. Micaela says:

    This is a joke right? The House should be less concerned with their right to delete comments, and they should enforce the right to delete this absolutely appalling article.

  5. soccerlogical says:

    Gus – I agree that Suarez refused to shake Evra’s hand because Suarez thought Evra was a tattle-tale who called his “mommy” during a fight in the sandbox. Adittionally, if there was one incident that “could have caused a riot” (Fergie’s own words), it was Evra’s post game antics.

    Having said all that, both players had acted like 2 idiots trying to start a fire…. one got burnt!

  6. redfan says:

    What ever was said was said but it was word for word and it never went to court so no proof other than one bad tempered man vs another.

    Suarez has now apologised and that should be the end of it, if the media stop stirring the pot.

    Negros does mean something different in Spanish and is used in several place names where the language is Spanish. Negros Island in the Phillipines, Punto Negros in Argentina and Uruguay has a province called Rio Negro. Begs the question: when does the use of the word become offensive when it is clearly a part of the latin American culture. Time to look forward as we cannot change yesterday. The lessons of history eh?

  7. soccerlogical says:

    Redfan – The use of any “racial/urban” word or slang becomes offensive once it is repeated more than once even though one notices the person was offended. If I call another player, coworker, friend, acquaintance or stranger a “cracker, jewboy, mah nigga,etc” and notice by his facial expression or reply he was offended…. repeating the word makes me an ignorant racist bastard regardless of the situation.

  8. Kones says:

    I almost stopped reading when I read the English language being butchered in the firt paragraph. I did stop reading in the third paragraph when this guy decides, apparently for everyone, how in-game racism should be dealt with; by ignoring it. No thank you. And for commenter RedFan: there was as much proof as you might find in any other legitimate court proceeding. The entire investigation and findings/ruling were published by the FA. Most people don’t bother themselves with the details though, just run their mouths based on the popular three lines of rhetoric being flung by whichever side they support.

  9. JohnBeans says:

    garbage article…
    ..

    “Whatever happened in the course of the game should have stayed in the game itself. This is the main rule of playing professional sports.”
    ..

    ever even played a sport before?
    no.. but it would be fantastic if your race/religion was made fun of..

  10. Gus Keri says:

    Kones:

    “I did stop reading in the third paragraph when this guy decides, apparently for everyone, how in-game racism should be dealt with; by ignoring it.”

    It would have been OK with me if you decided to stop reading because my English is not up to your standard; and I wouldn’t be offended at all. But I don’t think it’s fair to criticize the content if you chose not to read the article completely.

    Your conclusion is totally wrong.

  11. Gus Keri says:

    John Bladen:

    “but the rest of your article implies very clearly that it is Evra who has caused Suarez difficulty”

    It’s Suarez’s point of view and it’s coming from what he had said and what he wants us to beleive. It’s up to you to beleive him or not.

    “Trying to defend the indefensible.”

    How could you say that, when you don’t offer Suarez a legal and fair trial, according to the law that we we all know? The committee investigation was a joke and this is not my opinion but the opinion of a legal experts who are not even Liverpool fans.

  12. Gus Keri says:

    Eoin and John in Burke:

    Agree to disagree

  13. Gus Keri says:

    SL and Redfan:

    I agree

  14. KennyD says:

    I come here to finish Bobby Raves and Rants, and i come across the atrocious piece of writing.

    First, if you are insinuating that the incident INVOLVING RACISM between Suarez and Evra was “a playground incident” that needed to be settled on the field, it may be time to wash your “I Love Sepp Blatter” t-shirt. I can smell it through the monitor. The fact that you think any incident where the topic of racism is up for discussion is deeply offensive.

    And what happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch/ I did not know Anfield became Vegas. I’ll throw that one into Google Maps in my spare time.

    Second, you ask if Suarez ACTUALLY abused Evra? Let’s look at what happened.

    Luis Suarez allegedly racially abuses Patrice Evra

    Charges are brought against Luis Suarez

    Luis Suarez initially denies comments of any nature

    Luis Suarez then admits to making the comments, but claims his use of said comments were misunderstood (SoccerLogical’s response to Redfan disproves that 1000%).

    What part of what I’ve just written makes Luis Suarez seem credible?

    You have an issue with people not directly involved in the incident voicing opinion. They’re called the media. It’s part of the world we live in. And Liverpool did have the opportunity to appeal the FA’s decision. The fact that Luis Suarez’s defense was so appaling and that the club’s public show of denial was so blind that any appeal would have been futile. In regards to a legal proceeding, if Suarez is so adamant about his innocence, he can independently pursue a legal proceeding. He’s clearly shown that no one can stop him from doing what he wants to do. And in regards to salvaging his reputation, too late. His reputation, racist or not, guilty or innocent, precedes him.

    Now, the third part of your argument is an absolutely ridiculous. For Luis Suarez to go against the hierarchy of his club is selfishness. Any club, any business, any entity would’ve looked out for their own brand ahead of any employee. As talented as Luis Suarez is, he is far from indespensible; Liverpool could thrive with or without him. The fact that Liverpool took the position they did, as WRONG as it was, deserves a show of loyalty and obedience in return. What does it say when you stand by someone through thick and thin, only for them to not only leave you out in the cold, but to LIE TO YOUR FACE at the same time?

    You mention the need for the clubs to sit down. The FA wouldn’t have any of that during an investigation.

    You mention Sir Alex’s need to keep quiet. Rarely said a word during the investigation process, as opposed to his counterpart. And if his off-field influence can surpress Liverpool’s rebuilding process (which is not possible), then shame on a truly proud and historic club like Liverpool.

    You write an article defending a player, when now is a time where you should write to defend your club. Exactly who do you support?

    I could have spent my time better listening to preachings of Joey Barton. Never thought I’d come across someone so shameless, but my name’s Kenny, and it’s been an absolute displeasure to have read your work.

    By the way, you owe me 25 minutes of my life back. Or a resignation letter. I’m open to either.

  15. Gus Keri says:

    KennyD:

    I have to admit when I read your name for the first time I thought you chose it after Kenny Dalglish. Few of this website’s visitors chose their name after their favorite sportsman. I know better now.

    Let me first start by saying that nobody really knows what exactly happened in that game except the two players involved.
    You said that Suarez lied. But you are also forgetting that Evra also lied. He said initially that Suarez said the word “n****r” first then he changed it to “negro”. He said that Suarez said “negro” 10 times then he changed it to 5 times.

    so, nobody knows who is telling the absolute truth. It is up to you which one to believe.

    In regard to the appeal, as I understand it, Liverpool club can only appeal to reduce the punishment from 8 games but they can’t reverse the verdict. They can appeal to the CAS but they must have the approval of the FA to do that.

    Of course, Suarez can go to a civil court and sue the FA and Evra for defamation but then he might get his club into more trouble with the FA.
    There is a possibility for him to do so after he leaves the English league all together.

    About the 25 minutes you lost reading this article, my apology. I forgot to put a note in the beginning to warn all those who dislike Liverpool not to read it. But I thought the title was enough.

    By the way, If I took one dollar for every Liverpool-hating comment I read on this website, I would’ve been a millionaire by now.

    You live by the sword and you die by the sword

  16. John Bladen says:

    Gus:

    Suarez was afforded ample opportunity to defend himself and disprove the accusations made against him. Apparently, he failed to do so (why would he admit guilt if he was innocent?)
    The fact that it did not occur in a court of law is something he should be quite happy about, as if it had the likely outcome would be him paying Evra damages and perhaps even being up on misdemeanor charges.

    You can piss all over the FA hearing if you want, but this isn’t just a half dozen old boys meeting over a pint to decide what to do to an Argentine that has transgressed their rules. Those days are gone. There are professional processes involved. If you think a court of law would have produced a different result I believe you are completely wrong.

    Have a look at some of the racial BS posted on twitter about this incident if you really want a good look at how black players are treated in the EPL. It’s appalling. And no, “what happens on the field stays there” doesn’t extend to this type of thing.

    If it had been Rooney saying something like this to Glen Johnson, I don’t think you’d be quite as accommodating.

  17. Gus Keri says:

    John Bladen:

    Suarez didn’t admit guilt. He admitted he used the word “negro” in his conversation (in Spanish) but he didn’t use it in malicious way as Evra claimed.

    You mentioned Glen Johnson. Suarez has called his teammate “negro” few times. As a matter of fact, he did use it with other black teammates, before. But all these uses were as terms of endearment.

    In his native country, Uruguay, these are normal things and they were never seen as a racial abuse. This is why many people in Uruguay were very upset of the whole affair.

    As per the legal proceedings, Liverpool were taken by surprise. They thought that the case would be thrown out because there is no way to prove either side is right. It was a case “he said, he said” kind if things.

    The committee surprised them by taking a decision based on “high likelihood” of guilt and not the standard “beyond a reasonable doubt”. They decided that Suarez is unreliable, therefore he is guilty. They even didn’t consider the part of Evra’s story that was unreliable. (It was a case of both of them were lying but Suarez lied more)

    Any lawyer can tell you this is BS kind of judgement.

  18. everwonthetreble says:

    Gus:

    Do you strongly believe that Suarez did not use the term Negro to Evra, correct? I’m not asking for you to argue just a simple yes or no.

    If you feel as though he did not then quite honestly, you don’t have anything to talk about with anyone mate. Your argument along with any other Liverpool supporter needn’t go any further than proving that he never said anything like what has been written. Don’t bring in his grandad was black, he supports starving kids in Africa blah blah blah. Your reasoning should begin and end with there is no evidence to prove he said anything racially offensive.

    The problem I have is that, and please correct me if I’m wrong, many Liverpool supporters believe that it is a strong possibility that he may have used the term “Negro” in some way shape or form to address Evra on the pitch. Yet, they don’t see the problem with his actions. For me this is the whole crux of the argument and for some reason the supporters are having a difficult time dealing with the issue that calling a black man “Negro” in any context, in any venue, in 2012 is highly offensive. I find this quite shocking and I am very curious as to why.

    Help me to understand if I’m way off base. I just find it difficult to come to grips with the level of racial insensitivity from the club and supporters and its something I would never have expected from such an established club.

  19. Gus Keri says:

    EWTT:

    We can’t just say that (if he said the word “negro” then he was racially abusing his opponent.)

    The use of any word should be taken in the contents of the way of thinking and the way someone was brought up.

    I will answer John Bladen question here: If Wayne Rooney called Glen Johnson “negro”, it would be seen as a racial abuse. No doubt about that. Rooney is a white man who was born in England and knows quite well what he is saying.

    In Suarez’s situation, things are different.

    I will refer you and all the open-minded people of this website to read a very interesting article that was written by a legal expert who is NOT a Liverpool fan: (It’s two parts article)

    Part 1: http://newsframes.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/media-on-racism-churnalism/

    Part 2: http://newsframes.wordpress.com/2012/01/23/media-on-racism-framing/

  20. Gus Keri says:

    EWTT:

    I forgot to answer your question.

    There is no clear “yes or no” answer.

    I will tell you this:

    The only thing that both players agreed on is the fact that Suarez said the word “negro” while he was talking in Spanish.
    The use of “negro” while talking in Spanish is like the use of “Black” while talking in English.
    They didn’t agree on anything else, which left it all up to anyone’s personal interpretation.

    This is why people are split in the middle.
    Those who support LFC and Suarez believe his version of the truth and people who support MUFC and Evra believe Evra’s version.

    It’s just like politics in the USA. You are either Democratic or Republican.
    Have you noticed that most of the people who ridiculed my article are either MUFC supporters or those who dislike Liverpool?

  21. everwonthetreble says:

    Gus:

    Thanks for the link mate.

    So based on that link, if Spanish athletes continue to use the word Negro in addressing other black players on the pitch, you are ok with that as long as it is in the correct context?

    If you are that’s fine. I wholeheartedly disagree with that notion but the point I want you to understand fully is that just because you may mean something in one way doesn’t necessarily have to be the way someone else takes it. Why should Evra, just because they were talking in Spanish, have to hear being called a Negro even one time?

  22. everwonthetreble says:

    Gus:

    Nothing to do with hating Liverpool.

    I actually feel that the club and supporters have been misled by an ignorant man who, on top of that, is beyond selfish.

    Had he stood up and said, “I didn’t mean the term in that fashion but I understand how it may be offensive to others,” I would have had much more respect for him.

    Supporting your own player is part of being a football supporter. But really its up to the player and the club to recognize that they have a greater responsibility to the game than the fans do.

  23. Soccerlogical says:

    Gus – You do realize that Suarez admitted using the word “negro” several times and it was clear that Evra was upset by it… you do understand that don’t you?

    Only someone ignorant or obtuse would not agree that Suarez kept repeating the word “blacky/negro” in addition to pinching Evra’s arm and patting his head just to wind Evra up and upset him.

    You do realize that, don’t you?

  24. Gus Keri says:

    EWTT:

    No. I am not OK with the use of offensive words during the game. As a matter of fact, I have been calling on FIFA to ban all kind of “sensitive” insults like “family insults” since the Zidane famous headbutt.

    But the main issue here is who you want to believe.

    When there are two players that are notorious of misbehaviour, it’s up to you who you want to believe. You chose to believe Evra’s version. And this is Ok with me.

  25. Gus Keri says:

    SL:

    In the FA report, Suarez admitted to the use of the word “negro” only once. and according to him, in friedly way, not meaning to insult Evra.

    There was no video evidence to support either side of the story.

  26. Soccerlogical says:

    Surez’ s defence was that he used the word ‘negro’ only once and that it was when Evra is alleged to have said to him: ‘Don’t touch me, South American.’ Suarez said he had replied: ‘Por que, negro,’ or ‘Why, black?’

    *Not enough evidence either way for me.

    Fair nuff Gus, IMO it’s a hung jury as Evra has a past with these types of accusations and Evra’s post match antics clearly proved Evra himself is an asshole.

    It does seem that with such a lack of evidence, Suarez got burnt due to politics and the anti racism campaign.

  27. Gus Keri says:

    SL:

    “It does seem that with such a lack of evidence, Suarez got burnt due to politics and the anti racism campaign.”

    this is what it’s all about.

    The FA has an agenda and it happened that they found Evra’s side of the story more helpful.

    Evra’s supporters took it and ran with it. They thought they won. When in fact, both players were played like pawns by the big boys.

    this is where Suarez’s barbaric yawp came from.

    By the way, just for fun.
    For those who are interested to know more about the barbaric yawp, there is a movie scene that is one of my all-time personal favorites and I consider it one of the best scene in the history of cinema. Check it here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbzLUQKTDQE

  28. John Bladen says:

    Put down the shovel and stop digging, Gus.

    Your defense of Suarez is laughable. Your defense of racism even worse.

  29. Gus Keri says:

    John Bladen:

    I am not defending racism.

    This is stupid thing to say.

  30. Soccerlogical says:

    Gus – Ignore all the haters, they are just reactionary wanna be “liberals” who do not seek logic, reason and proof. I bet most didn’t even grow up in diverse communities so it’s just “guilt”.

    However, if you go based on “rap sheet”, past offenses and credibility, you gotta admit that a jury would obviously be wary of someone who was suspended for biting an opposing player in Eredevisie, showed the middle finger to opposing fans AND NOW THIS!

    Regardless of Evra’s past accusations, Suarez’ previous “convictions” are serious and do undermine his “defense”.

  31. Soccerlogical says:

    Bladen – Instead of writing nonsense, first understand what Gus is trying to get across. It amazes me how some people are just unable or unwilling to grasp what the crux of any matter is all about and only see what they wanna see.

  32. Gus Keri says:

    SL:

    I can’t wait to see what people, here, will say about Ajax fans now. Are they also racists because they chanted the name “Suarez” before their game agaisnt Man Utd today?

  33. J Rob says:

    Can’t we put this subject to bed?

    As a Liverpool fan I have been embarrassed by much of how the club has reacted to this (especially the t-shirts and official club comments on Evra).

    Read the 130 page report. Understand that your interpretation of it will largely depend on who you support. If the courts’ standard for proof was the same as FA tribunals, Harry Redknapp wouldn’t exactly be the “next England manager” after his recent trial.

    Think the British media has been very sanctimonious and that the tougher subject of why minorities are almost completely unrepresented amongst managers, FA officials, coaches, boardrooms and press boxes has never been broached.

    That said a sensitive subject like this mixed with tribalism is very unhealthy.

    Nothing to be gained by the relentless back and forth. Those who think Suarez is blameless or that he is completely at fault aren’t going to be swayed at this point.

    As for Liverpool we did buy a player after all that was suspended for biting a player in Holland. Maybe continued controversy shouldn’t be a surprise.

  34. Gus Keri says:

    J Rob:

    I know what you mean and I also wish if this issue would go away. But unfortunately, it won’t, because the media will keep it alive for as long as it takes.

    I just heard that the United Nation is convening an emergency session. The item on the agenda is “how to deal with the country of Uruguay, whose president was found to be a racist.” He, today, made a strong statement in support of Luis Suarez.

  35. J Rob says:

    Gus:

    You can only control your own actions and reactions. Let others go on as much as they want. I know it’s to Man Utd’s credit that they consider it closed. As for the President of Uruguay well..he should know that neither the FA or Evra said that Suarez was a racist. At worst he used a racist term (again open to interpretation) in the middle of a heated argument against a player Evra who admitted to starting the argument. Mountains out of molehills and all that good stuff. This could all have been avoided with some sensible conciliation between the players after the game. Ah well….

  36. KennyD says:

    Gus, I am a Manchester United supporter and in NY (as yourself). My problem is that instead of writing to defend your club, full of history and pride, you write to defend a petulant, immature, and selfish child who is single-handedly ruining that reputation. Liverpool and a section of supporters have a persecution complex, and I believe you’re one of them. I understand that. I respect that. We’ve all had moments when we felt our team was hard done by. Kenny Dalglish uses that as motivation and as a rallying point, and I respect that. My thoughts when he was hired: “Good for them. They seem excited. Things should go well.” I don’t care if you want to give the world (or the FA or MUFC) the finger when your pissed off. Goal disallowed: they’re against us. He should’ve been sent off: they’re against us. But this isn’t about Luis Suarez. This isn’t about Liverpool nor Manchester United. This is about racism. And the subject of racism doesn’t need the Liverpool persecution complex involved. Why was he found guilty? Because when it’s all said and done, he’s admitted guilt to what he’s been charged of: racial abuse. And it is appalling for you a the section of fans who believe what to think, “They’re against us. Why is he being made an example of? Not because he did wrong, because they’re against us.” When racism is the topic involved, that idea is unacceptable. It gets you nowhere fast. It ruins your image. It calls your morals into question (fairly or unfairly). You can’t win that way. And when you don’t, what do you think? “They’re against us.”

    There are a lot of things about Luis Suarez that appeal him to his club’s supporters, and piss off everybody else. That’s his drive, his passion, and undeniable quality. What he also does, that can only touch a section of Liverpool supporters such as yourself, is feed into and validate your persecution complex. In your eyes, what the FA did proves it. The response to things he’s done and said proves it. He validates the conspiracy.

    And yet, last Saturday afternoon, in the north of Manchester, Luis Suarez stepped out onto Old Trafford. According to what you’ve written, and I’m paraphrasing, he felt lonely and betrayed by his own club, the club who stood behind him no matter what, not backing away through a hellacious amount of deserved criticism. He was told to shake Patrice Evra’s hand. After all they did for him, they asked him to do something for them, and what did he think? They’re against me. They’re not standing up for me. They’re not behind me. He turned the persection complex back in the faces of the only people he had supporting him. But he’s fed into the complex, and that makes him one of us and we have to back him up. He’s fed into the complex just as you do. Just as a section of Liverpool supporters do. He tarnished the reputaion of your club while they stood behind him, then lied to their face. When I thought of Liverpool, 12 months ago, the first name to mind: Steven Gerrard, the captain, the talisman, the quiet yet strong leader. Will I send him a Christmas card? No. Do I respect him. Absolutely. But he’s not the first name in my mind anymore. Ask yourself, “How dare he? Don’t we deserve better?” I know Liverpool could sure as hell find better.

    Someone made the decision to take the worst possible tactic into battle, and now the price is being paid. Now a bad image is being painted of Liverpool. And for that reason (And I do believe, but not completely, this was said on the SREP by either Bobby or Eoin), Liverpool have lost a lot of friends, and it’ll be very hard getting them back.

    But if they don’t come back, I’m sure you’ll have the answer as to why.

  37. John Bladen says:

    SL: I see your level of stupidity and ignorance is back up to normal.

    Suarez made a racist comment to Evra. He admitted as much. He has been suspended for it.

    Mr. Keri chooses to defend this action, as do you, suggesting “what happens on the field/clubhouse should stay there”.

    If either of you really believe that, you can prove it.

    Gus is a New Yorker, as I understand.

    So, when the world champion Giants have their next public event, the pair of you wander up to:

    Justin Tuck
    Chris Canty
    Jason Pierre-Paul
    Osi Umeniora

    And say to them exactly what Suarez said.
    Do let us all know how you make out.

    Gus, the sole purpose of this piece is to defend racism in sport. It is utter garbage, as indicated by the majority of the posters. You are trying very hard (and failing) to dress it up as something else.

    If you are going to write this kind of crap, expect to get called on it every time.

  38. Ed Gomes says:

    I’m sorry for coming to the party late on this one. Unfortunately works gets in the way sometimes. LOL!
    First and foremost, Suarez is an idiot and proven instigator on the field. I am also a Man United supporter.
    But lets just assume that Suarez is not an idiot and teams had real PR departments that were good at their jobs. I know, that would be silly.

    Lets also imagine that Suarez held a press conference after the suspenssion was handed down and said the following;

    “First and foremost I would like to apologize to my family, Liverpool fans and fans of football across the globe. I understand that racism is a problem not only in football but in all walks of life as well. I also understand why I was handed such a hefty punishment by the FA. But the one person I will not apologize to is Evra. I know what I said was hurtfull, but I want people to understand that what he said to me in regards to myself and my family was also very hurtfull to me. I retaliated verbally in the most hurtfull way I thought possible, because it was close to becoming a physical confrontation. I have many black friends and a family member that also happens to be black. They know that I am not a racist, and if I made such deplorable comments I must have had a good reason. Again I understand the FA’s stand on the matter, but I want to make clear that I also felt attacked during our altercation, hence me making the comments directed at Evra. I will not take his comments/attacks lightly.
    For me this matter is now closed and done, and I would like to put it behind me. Once again I apologize to all who have been hurt by this incident but I will not change my stance towards Evra, and will not shake his hand or aknowledge him in any way.”

    Would people feel or react differently towards the situation if that would have taken place? Please don’t think that I am giving Suarez a pass on what he did, but I’m just putting in in possible prespective.
    I’m Portuguese, and I know if I tell someone in the Southern Portugal that his wife is sleeping around, they will curse back at me. If I do the same to someone in Northern Portugal, a will get a fist to the face. It doesn’t matter if we were arguing or not, that’s the circumstances.
    Racism should be abolished, but there’s people tripping all over themselves in either being self righteous or proving that they deal with it severly.
    The FA did what it felt was right, but maybe both players should have been punished. What’s stopping a player from instigating to the point of getting a racial slur thrown at them? In context, it would actually be very easy to do verse certaing Central and South American players.

  39. Alberta Gooner says:

    I don’t know who owns and edits Soccer Report Extra but they need to have a hard think about the editorial standards they apply to op-ed contributions to the site. This kind of piece undermines the credibility of the site and the other contributors who write for it.

  40. Ed Gomes says:

    AG, really?
    Can you explain how?
    If someone understands what Suarez could have been reacting to, does that make him or her a racist?
    I don’t see anyone condoning the racist remarks.

    I am of the beliefe that racism should be dealt with severely. I’ve mentioned plenty on how “dark” matches should be enforced. By dark I mean also blacked out from tv /everywhere. That should send a message to owners that lose out on money, and the fan base who will miss out on the game.

    It just seems to me that when someone screams racism, there’s plenty that jump to conclusions instead of investigating and taking proper action. I agree with FA’s suspenssion, but don’t be naive in thinking that Evra wasn’t involved.

  41. Soccerlogical says:

    What a surprise, AG and Bladen missing thew point of an argument! LOL

    Bladen – I am also from NYC and often times when I play sports like soccer or basketball I hear hispanic players using words like “niggah” towards one another and black players from different teams. It is a cultural thing which I guess some “sheltered” folks do not understand. So considering Suarez admitted using the word “negro” once and that Evra admitted to starting the whole thing by calling Suarez a South American and the rest is vague… many think that an 8 match ban is a bit harsh for using the word “negro” one time in a way that even Evra’s wife addresses him and is common in many countries. Could Suarez have used the word in a racist way… YES. Could Suarez have used the word as many do in every day situations from S American countries.. YES. Have both Suarez and Evra proved to be idiots ranging from Suarez’ impersonation of Nosferatu in Eredivsie and Evra’s post match antics (which could have incited a riot)… YES!

    This is world football where many cultures/nationalities meet and many things are said and some players may get offended and some may not… the point is that the evidence and circumstances around the incident are VAGUE.

    AG – Time to refill your bottle of Wenger juice as you seem to be running out. Any chance Henry can return for the second leg against Milan and overturn the deficit? Thank goodness we have your guy Djourou in our defense and didn’t buy a Cahill, Samba or Alex in the January transfer window.. eh? :)

  42. rdm says:

    I wasn’t planning on chiming in but instead I wrote this.

    A critique by paragraph.

    1st: Metaphor

    2nd: Suarez is voicing his displeasure at what? The people who convicted him? The person/people who accused him? Or the people who asked him to just nut up and shake someone’s hand? I personally think that regardless of what anyone might believe, the fact remains that Suarez was asked specifically by his employer to shake Evra’s hand and Suarez agreed to it. Suarez then decided to go against this agreement.

    3rd: Statement: Evra is the main culprit of the whole affair. Pardon? Evra submits that Suarez used racially charged language and Evra is the culprit? Incredible. What happens in the game stays in the game eh? The main rule of sports? Pull the other one it’s got bells on it. To the best of my knowledge no such rule exists nor could ever conceivably exist.

    4th: There is no limit on what I can or cannot say during a sporting event provided I’m one of the participants. Wonderful. What a lovely example that would set. It could conceivably be considered an unwritten rule but in my humble opinion it should also be considered silly bullshit used to condone doing whatever you want in the name of winning.

    5th: What rule? Where is this “rule”? You made it up, you’ve literally made up a rule in order to complain about someone breaking it.

    6th: You more or less got this one correct, I’ll leave it be.

    7th: Completely irrelevant. Past transgressions whether real or imagined should have no bearing on the examining of evidence for this current situation. Sins of the father or of the past are by and large only relevant on the internet where people can get away with that sort of nonesense without backing up their arguments. Whether or not you feel that Evra overreacted is irrelevant to this discussion.

    8th: The “Some of my best friends are black.” non sequitur. Please… His “hatred” for Evra I feel is due to the fact that Evra actually reported it. But I admit that’s my personal opinion.

    9th: Yawping at the FA.

    10th: Racism is a problem, yes, I can’t argue this point at all.

    11th: So Suarez, who admittedly used the word “negro”. Is being unfairly targeted because of the fact that Evra felt that it was racially charged due to the context of the match and the way in which it was delivered and decided to report it. Is that more or less your point? Because that appears to be what you’re saying. Suarez’s intentions might not have been racially abusive, we’ll literally never know for sure. But Evra felt that they were. Seems to me that by that point alone, there is enough proof to at the very least assign some
    consequences, which the FA have done. Literally the shitstorm could and should have stopped here, if Suarez had taken his lumps and learned his lesson, the lesson being: Don’t use racially charged language.

    12th: Secondary argument, unnecessary.

    13th: The only reason he’ll have a reputation for being a racist is down to the way he’s conducted himself during and after the trial. Had he said something akin to “After hearing the FA’s side of the case, I admit to using, what in England is considered racially charged language, it was a mistake I admit to and one that I will not commit again” this would have blown over in about 3 days tops. Seriously.

    14th: Conjecture but in this context let’s say you’re correct in this assumption.

    15th: The first sentence is literally all you need here. He promised he would, then he didn’t. Whatever else is implied, it comes down to this. A broken promise to his employers.

    16th: More suggestions of handshakes after the final whistle and all is forgotten. I don’t see why this even comes into it? How the clubs handled things is irrelevant once the FA got involved. Evra reported to his club, his club reported to the FA. You say it like there are a couple of “parents” associated with each club that can meet to discuss the altercations between two sets of children. This is a flawed analogy.

    17th: If you truly believe that Ferguson is worried about LFC and their attempts to return to the glory days… I don’t think I can help you with this one, you’re on your own. As much as I really don’t wish anything bad on LFC, the opposite in fact, you’re on your own.

    18th: It’s my understanding that LFC and Kenny Dalglish especially, supported Suarez right up until such time as it became completely untenable, at which point they asked Suarez to apologize (which he did) and shake a hand (which he
    said he would, then didn’t) so, who’s to blame here?

    19th: Overarching evil conspiracies are the product of imagination and persecution complexes. It is infinitely more reasonable to assume that sometimes, otherwise decent people make poor decisions either through lack of information, care or incompetence. He shouldn’t have to go home to his family
    and explain anything. At the most he just needs to tell his side of the story, if indeed what he said isn’t racially charged in Uruguay then so be it but the fact remains that in most other parts of the world it is.

    20th: Oh it was heard and seen alright…

  43. everwonthetreble says:

    RDM:

    Thanks for this mate…

    11th: So Suarez, who admittedly used the word “negro”. Is being unfairly targeted because of the fact that Evra felt that it was racially charged due to the context of the match and the way in which it was delivered and decided to report it. Is that more or less your point? Because that appears to be what you’re saying. Suarez’s intentions might not have been racially abusive, we’ll literally never know for sure. But Evra felt that they were. Seems to me that by that point alone, there is enough proof to at the very least assign some
    consequences, which the FA have done. Literally the shitstorm could and should have stopped here, if Suarez had taken his lumps and learned his lesson, the lesson being: Don’t use racially charged language.

    I’m at a loss as to why no one understands this point. The very fact that this flies over people’s heads shows how racially insensitive a lot of people are.

  44. Soccerlogical says:

    EWTT – I agree with you 100%. I just think that an 8 match ban was a bit harsh, especially when you consider that Evra may have instigated the whole thing by calling Suarez a “South American” which may have been offensive as well.

    I’m sure Chicharito would be offended if I said “Don’t touch me, you Mexican”.

    So all those coming to a hasty decision on this and calling to burn Suarez at the stake need to fully understand what Gus is trying to get across.

    OK Gus, I am done with this. From now on my consulting fee is $200/hr!

  45. J Rob says:

    This example of alleged racism in sport was all about a heated exchange on a soccer pitch between two incensed and hyper-competitive individuals. The type of exchange that doesn’t reflect well on either player. The type of incident witnessed every day on elementary school playgrounds.

    What really became bad was the way that tribal loyalties allowed a minor incident to mushroom well beyond it’s starting point.

    I am a Liverpool fan. I got carried away at times too. But ultimately would Liverpool have responded in the same way if it wasn’t Patrice Evra (who kissed his badge in front of LFC fans in that game) and more importantly Man Utd? I highly doubt it.

    What sticks in my throat is the sanctimonious drivel trotted out by the British media on Suarez especially. I have said it before but I think I read one solitary piece in the Independent about the institutional racism prevalent in the British game.

    All the missives from the various pundits, journalists and the 8 match ban from the FA did nothing to dispel the reality that minorities are almost completely absent amongst managers,coaches,match officials, owners, executives and indeed pundits and journalists.

    That reality is far more serious than a spat in the middle of fiercely competitive derby.

  46. Gus Keri says:

    First of all, I want to say, again, that it’s very stupid for any one to suggest that this article or myself is defending racism.

    I am even starting to feel one or two of the regulars have some kind of personal grudge against me and, really, I don’t know why. I hope it’s nothing beyond my being a Liverpool fan.

    This article is defending a player who believes that he was wrongly accused of being racist or racially abusing his opponent (whichever way you look at it)

    For an issue as important as racism, it should not have been left for a “banana republic” type of court to settle the issue.
    Suarez should have been given the full protection of the law (outside the sport) and should have been given a fair trial.

    I agree with some of you who suggested that Suarez should have come out at the beginning and acknowledged that he used a racially charging word (knowingly or unknowingly) inappropriately and that he was not going to use it again. But I don’t think it would have helped him. It was too great an opportunity for the FA to pass on. They needed to send a message worldwide.

  47. Gus Keri says:

    SL:

    the initial insult wasn’t that Evra referred to Suarez as a South American.

    the initial insult was a family curse which Evra said to Suarez in Spanish.

    According to many people in South America, it’s considered more offensive than any racial insult.

  48. JohnnyR says:

    I’m not a Liverpool fan or a Manchester United fan. The verdict is the verdict; Suarez can’t do anything about it, nor should he. That’s all over, and everyone needs to let it go.

    What I can’t understand is why Evra calling Suarez a very offensive slur for a South American is fine, and no one talks about it. This is completely independent of what Suarez said/did. What if Evra had called a Scottish player any number of degrading, disgusting slurs thrown at the Scots so commonly in England? Would that be okay too? I actually think it would, by the FA’s standard.

    I am a South American, and this makes my blood boil, because it happens all the time.

  49. Alberta Gooner “I don’t know who owns and edits Soccer Report Extra but they need to have a hard think about the editorial standards they apply to op-ed contributions to the site. This kind of piece undermines the credibility of the site and the other contributors who write for it.” I think you know the answer to this and if you don’t – it is me.
    I disagree with almost everything that is in the piece but whether you or I like it it or not the reality is that it is representative of the views of a significant number of people – mainly Liverpool supporters.
    What is also clear to me is that although everyone has an opinion very very few have taken the time to read the report. If they had they already know that many of the issues in the article and the comments were dealt with at length and in a very detailed manner.
    One more thing that continues to bug me is the constant blurring of the the criminal system burden of proof and the civil. The degree of proof is also addressed in the judgment report and in some detail.

  50. Alberta Gooner says:

    @Bobby,

    Thanks for responding and I wasn’t sure whether you owned the site.

    There’s a case to be made about Suarez and I read many clear, concise, well constructed critiques of the FA’s disciplinary process. I suspect contributions to your site are probably voluntary but this piece could have used some further clarity before being posted. I have no issue with Gus’ opinion as a Liverpool supporter even though I don’t necessarily agree with it. I just think his points could have been better stated with some editorial guidance.

    I’d be happy to discuss this with you. You’ve got my e-mail so if you are interested, please get in touch with me as I have zero interest in feeding the trolls that have infested this thread. They are a big reason why I rarely make comments around here because threads get derailed quickly.

  51. Gus Keri says:

    Bobby:

    I am missing something in your conversation with AG and I don’t want to misunderstand what you are trying to say.

    (editorial..op-ed..editorial guidance..undermines the credibility of the site and the other contributors)

    These are big words

    There is one thing you can be sure of, Bobby. I don’t want to cause any harm to your website.

    I know this subject is very controversial and it took a lot of courage from me to write it, knowing the trend on your website.

    But if you think that it might affect your website negatively and drive people away from your site, you have my permission to remove it immediately and I won’t be offended at all.

  52. Russell Berrisford says:

    Gus- I think that Bobby is saying that although he may disagree with what you have to say, he shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.

    Well maybe not “to the death” but you know what I mean.

  53. Soccerlogical says:

    @ Russell
    Hear, hear. Unfortunately, some so called “anti racist campaigners” and “reactionary liberals” are nothing more than censors with an authoritarian personality.

    The piece solicited some interesting views on the matter and I am sure none of the posters are racist in any way…. biased towards their club perhaps.

    PS How about my Arsenal eh? Best defense and med staff in the league thanks to Wenger! LOL

  54. Ed Gomes says:

    People tend to forget that racism doesn’t begin or end with the “n” word.
    Depending on your culture, there’s terms that are as inflammatory as the “n” word.

    I don’t think anyone was defending Suarez, it’s just that he’s being vilified while another villain should have been as well.
    By the way, I’m a Liverpool hater, and Man United supporter.

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